Speed of Canon 1014 XLS and projector ELMO GS 1200

[cisoares]

The speed of Canon 1014 XLS and projector ELMO GS 1200 are the same?
I want to buy this projector but if the speed are not the same I have problems to synchronize the sound.

[Paul L.]

Both the camera and projector are NOT locked to 24 frames per second. You are going to get drift between the two if you plan on dubbing sound. I think you need to do more reading about how to handle sound with Super8. Search the archives of this site and 8mm.filmshooting.com.

[cisoares]

I've already read some "lessons" in the archives but I'm very confused.
I want to make a film using a Camera Canon 1014 XLS and get sound using a minidisk recorder (Sony MZN1...top of line). My problem is after this. I have a 810 EUMIG projector.
I think I'm going have problems to synchronize sound! Am I right?
Is it necessary to buy another projector? What projector? I know ELMO GS 1200 is very good for this purposes but is also very expensive (about $1300 at ebay).
Thank you for your help
Carlos

[PKraft]

Hi,
speed indications on Super 8 cameras and projectors are always a "close to" guess. Do not assume that any two of those would run in sync over a certain period of time. To sync them, you need a syncing device where one of the two is the master and the other the slave where the slave's speed is resolved to the master's.

The speed of the GS 1200 can be resolved to a sync signal (1 pulse per frame), it will then run in sync with the master.

Recording picture and sound you are confronted with the following situation: Your camera runs at "wild" sync while your MD recorder runs a crystal sync speed. To sync camera and MD recorder, you need a crystal sync speed resolver for your camera. The Film Group sells such units. They are approx. 300 bucks depending on your camera model. You may find a cheaper/used one on Ebay.

To sync the edited film with your location sound on MD you need to resolve the speed of the GS 1200 to a crystal quartz unit. Your only problem will be how to start and stop the MD so that the sound transfer starts at exactly the point you want to have it.

There is a better way: Transfer your edited film to digital video (DV) and transfer the DV via firewire onto the hard disc of your computer. Transfer the sound from your location sound MD digitally onto your harddisc as well. Open a video editing application like iMovie and align picture and sound until they run in sync.

Retransfer the edited sound digitally onto MD or burn a CD.
Watch Ebay for a crystal sync unit that can govern the GS 1200 so it runs crystal sync. It's called AudioSync and is on sale in Germany at www.wittner-kinotechnik.de. Once you start the MD or the CD Audiosync will automatically start the GS 1200 and keep its speed exactly at 18 or 25 fps.

Why don't you start with wild sync, edit the sound on your PC and just invest in AudioSync. That's a good point to start. And do sync location sound only after you have aquired lots of experience (one will be that you need sync location sound far less than anticipated and that lost of sounds can be moved in the timeline of your sound editing app so that it seems to run in sync while in reality this is only the case at certain sync points).

Need more help?
Email me
Klaus

[cisoares]

Thank you for your answer, but can I use my Eumig 807 projector to add directly the sound I have registered in MD?
Carlos